Verification of figures used in a public statement

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MESSAGE 1 [outgoing]
HEADER: John Molyneux
22 January 2019
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Dear Her Majesty’s Treasury,
In Parliamentary Written Question 198777 ʺhow many (a) doctors and (b) nurses will be subject to the 2019 Loan Chargeʺ Mel Stride answered that ʺHMRC data indicates that fewer than 3% of those affected work in medical services (doctors and nurses) and teachingʺ
Link here:
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publi...
1) Did the source of the HMRC figures used in the answer indicate that the figures are estimates?
2) Did the source of the HMRC figures used in the answer indicate any degree of accuracy?
3) Please detail any verification methods used by the Treasury to verify both the figures and the methodology used by HMRC to calculate them.
Yours faithfully,
Mr J Molyneux

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MESSAGE 3 [incoming]
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MESSAGE 4 [incoming]
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11 February 2019
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Dear Mr Molyneux
Please find attached a letter in response to your Freedom of Information
request.
For ease of reference, the attached letter contains the following
clickable hyperlinks:
[1]
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...
[2]
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisati...
Yours sincerely
Information Rights Unit | HM Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A
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MESSAGE 5 [outgoing]
HEADER: John Molyneux
12 February 2019
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Dear FOI Requests,
Thank you for your response confirming that HM Treasury holds some of the information within the scope of my request and HM Treasury does not verify the figures provided by HMRC.
My original question was based on the expectation of HM Treasury having direct communications with HMRC and not being dependent on the publicly released information at
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...
where there is no explicit indication of the level of accuracy of any estimated figures.
Can HM Treasury confirm that the answer to Parliamentary Written Question 198777 was solely based on the link above and no further data or metadata was provided by HMRC to answer the question?
Yours sincerely,
John Molyneux

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12 March 2019
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Dear Mr Molyneux
Please find attached a letter in response to your Freedom of Information
request.
For ease of reference, the attached letter contains the following
clickable hyperlink:
[1]
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisati...
Yours sincerely
Information Rights Unit | HM Treasury, 1 Horse Guards Road, London, SW1A
2HQ   [2]www.gov.uk/hm-treasury
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Information Rights Unit
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HM Treasury
1 Horse Guards Road
HM Treasury 
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London
SW1A 2HQ
Mr J Molyneux 
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020 7270 5000
foirequests@hmtreasury.gov.uk
www.gov.uk/hm-treasury
11 February 2019
Ref: FOI2019/00997
Dear Mr Molyneux
Freedom of Information Act 2000: 2019 Loan Charge
Thank you for your enquiry of 22 January 201 9, which we have considered under the
terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the FOI! Act).
You asked for the following information:
“In Parliamentary Written Question 198777 “how many (a) doctors and (b) nurses
will be subject to the 2019 Loan Charge" Mel Stride answered that "HMRC data
indicates that fewer than 3% of those affected work in medical services (doctors
and nurses) and teaching”
Link here: https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-
answersstatements/written-question/Commons/201 8-12-04/198777/
1) Did the source of the HMRC figures used in the answer indicate that the figures
are estimates?
2) Did the source of the HMRC figures used i in the answer indicate any degree of
accuracy?
3) Please detail any verification methods used by the Treasury to verify both the
figures and the methodology used by HMRC to calculate them.”
Following a search of our records, | can confirm that HM Treasury holds some information 
—
within the scope of your request.
Information regarding HM Revenue and Customs (HMRQ) figures being estimates is
publicly available. Under section 21 of the FOI Act, public authorities are not obliged to re-
issue information where it is already publicly accessible.
To be helpful, HMRC has published a briefing that gives more information about the number
of people affected by the loan charge and can be found on gov.uk here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hmrc-issue-briefing-disquised-remuneration-
charge-on-loans/hmrc-issue-briefing-disquised-remuneration-charge-on-loans
HMRC figures are based on taxpayer information which the Treasury does not hold.
Therefore, the Treasury is not able to verify the information provided and relies on HMRC on
any analysis of these figures.

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You may wish to direct your enquiries to HMRC 
to see if they hold any of the information
you are seeking. Their contact details can be found at the bottom of the page at the link
below:
https:/Awww.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-revenue-customs
If you have any queries about this letter, please contact us. Please quote the reference
number above in any future communications.
Yours sincerely
1RU
Information Rights Unit

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Your right to complain under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
if you are not happy with this reply, you can request a review by writing to HM Treasury,
Information Rights Unit, 
1 Horse Guards Road, London SW1A 2HQ or by emailing us at the
address below. Any review request must be made within 2 months of the date of this
letter.
Email: foirequests@hmtreasury.gov.uk
It would assist our review if you set out which aspects of the reply concern you and why
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If you are not content with the outcome of the review, you may apply directly to the
Information Commissioner for a decision. Generally, the Commissioner will not make a
decision unless you have exhausted the complaints procedure provided by HM Treasury
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The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: The Information Commissioner's
Office, Wycliffe 
House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF (or via their website at:
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Mr John Molyneux 
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foirequests@hmtreasu ry.gov.uk
www.gov.uk/hm-treasury
12 March 2019
Ref: FOI2019/02171
Dear Mr Molyneux
Freedom of Information Act 2000: 2019 Loan Charge
Thank you for your enquiry of 12 February 2019, which we have considered under the
terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the FOI Act).
You asked for the following information:
“Thank you for your response confirming that HM Treasury holds some of the
information within the scope of my request and HM Treasury does not verify the
figures provided by HMRC.
My original question was based on the expectation of HM Treasury having direct
communications with HMRC and not being dependent on the publicly released
information at https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hmrc-issue-briefing-
disguised-remuneration-charge-on-loans/hmrc-issue-briefing-disguised-
remuneration-charge-on-loans where there is no explicit indication of the level of
accuracy of any estimated figures.
Can HM Treasury confirm that the answer to Parliamentary Written Question
198777 was solely based on the link above and no further data or metadata was
provided by HMRC to answer the question?”
Following a search of our records, | can confirm that HM Treasury does not hold
information within the scope of your request.
The answer to Parliamentary Written Question 198777 was provided by HM Revenue and
Customs (HMRC), not by HM Treasury.
HMRC is a non-ministerial department and is accountable to the Chancellor of the
Exchequer who delegates oversight to the Financial Secretary to the Treasury. This is the
reason that a Treasury Minister answered a Parliamentary Question covering the remit of
HMRC.
if you would like further information pertaining to this Parliamentary Question, HMRC’s
contact details can be found at the bottom of the page at the link below:
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-revenue-customs
If you have any queries about this letter, please contact us. Please quote the reference
number above 
in any future communications.

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Yours sincerely
AA
Information Rights Unit

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Copyright notice
Most documents HM Treasury supplies in response to a Freedom of Information request,
including this letter, continue to be protected by Crown copyright. This is because they will
have been produced by Government officials as part of their work. You are free to use
these documents for your information, for any non-commercial research you may be doing
and for news reporting. Any other re-use, for example commercial publication, 
will require
the permission of the copyright holder. Crown copyright is managed by The National
Archives and you can find details on the arrangements for re-using Crown copyright
material at: http://www. nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/re-using-public-
sector-information/uk-government-licensing-framework/crown-copyright/
Your right to complain under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
If you are not happy with this reply, you can request a review by writing to HM Treasury,
Information Rights Unit, 
1 Horse Guards Road, London SW1A 2HQ or by emailing us at the
address below. Any review request must be made within 2 months of the date of this
letter.
Email: foirequests@hmtreasury.gov.uk
It would assist our review if you set out which aspects of the reply concern you and why
you are dissatisfied.
If you are not content with the outcome of the review, you may apply directly to the
Information Commissioner for a decision. Generally, the Commissioner will not make a
decision unless you have exhausted the complaints procedure provided by HM Treasury
which is outlined above.
The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: The information Commissioner’s
Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF (or via their website at:
https://ico.org.uk).
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